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Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:06:00 -
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::Slow clap::
I read this dev blog...and I am still in disbelief. Everything looks ::cough:: Awesome.
I think you actually managed to get this one right out of the gate.
For years it never occurred to me that reprocessing could have been made better. This dev blog exceeded my expectations and I am glad to hear it will fix many other problems in EVE. The UI interface looks amazing and worthwhile.
Am I right to assume, people can actually reprocess ore in a Wormhole now too without loss?
Holy $hit if that is correct. Now with increased risks mining in a WH, you can actually have something to balance it out. Awesome.
One more question:
"A character that has perfect skills / standings who reprocesses at a 50% station with all skills maxed but without the 4% implant will have 2.8% less reprocessed minerals than currently. Again, that is an intended behavior, as we want players to invest in reprocessing to get the most out of it."
Does this mean that you will HAVE To use implants to get 100%?
If so I disagree with this philosophy as the rest of the game does not work this way. I.e. People use implants mostly to make up for skills lacking and then sometimes to take it to 105% - not to get to 100%.
Please reconsider if that is the case...it is immersion breaking imho.
Thanks for a great dev blog and new summer feature though. My crew will really be looking forward to this. |

Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:17:00 -
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Thanks for the reply Ytterbium.
What ARE the numbers on perfect refine in a Wormhole now?
Also - Dev blog lacking numbers on scrapmetal reprocessing maxed. Maybe I missed it. Big devblog. |

Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:23:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote: But in all cases, Starbase Reprocessing Arrays are better than NPC stations. As mentioned before, we have authored the Starbase Reprocessing Array as if you had perfect skills; so in reality they give you a 75.3% and 78.1% reprocesing rate.
I'm not understanding how, with perfect refining your chart says that you will refine in an NPC station @ 72.4% and starbase refining will be at 52/54% where is the extra 23% of yield coming from?
Ore amount increases? I am losing this point as well... |

Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2014.03.20 15:43:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Ms Michigan wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote: But in all cases, Starbase Reprocessing Arrays are better than NPC stations. As mentioned before, we have authored the Starbase Reprocessing Array as if you had perfect skills; so in reality they give you a 75.3% and 78.1% reprocesing rate.
I'm not understanding how, with perfect refining your chart says that you will refine in an NPC station @ 72.4% and starbase refining will be at 52/54% where is the extra 23% of yield coming from? Ore amount increases? I am losing this point as well... That's ok, I'm apparently very good at confusing people. NPC station base reprocessing rate can either be 35% or 50%. After the change, with max skills and the implant you will get 72.4% from a 50% base NPC station. However, we wanted base Reprocessing Array rates to be higher than NPC stations, thus at 52 and 54%. However, since skills are not taken into account for those, we set them up to artificially count as if you have max skills + implant, thus giving them 75.3% and 78.1%. Outposts will still be on top of those, with a base rate of 60% when fulling upgraded. As such, with max skills and the implant you'll get a maximum reprocessing rate of 86.8% there. Is that less confusing now? 
Gotcha! Thanks.
Yeah I missed the part where arrays still didn't take into account skills. |

Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:41:00 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:I've been reading through this thread and what I'm not seeing a lot of people comment on is loot reprocs.
I'm sure CCP has access to the amount of minerals that are currently being added to the market through this sort of mining, but I without knowing how much are coming from this method, its going to be pretty hard to fathom just how badly this is going to affect the market. If people were to stop refining all modules for mins that are dropped as loot, this could have a huge affect on the mineral market and having prices going up a good bit.
As another poster said, this is also going to drastically decrease the price for some meta modules (ex: smartbombs that are otherwise valueless). I think people are worried about the wrong thing here (ie minerals from ore) as what CCP has shown is that despite these changes that profession is going to basically stay the same.
I'm just not sure what the point of introducing something like the MTU was if they were going to make looting not profitable, or not worth the time...
Also, with people compressing ore now as a viable profession, I wonder how much minerals that will take off the market since the ore won't be refined and thus also drive the price up. I expect to see all mineral prices rise by 10-20% if not 30% depending on how all this shakes out.
Agree...I posted this query as well.
My best guess is that CCP says - "Hold tight - inbound meta 1-4 changes to come." ???
So people MAY NOT refine these?? Not sure. How does Fozzie plan to rebalance modules without unbalancing ships. Above my pay grade. |

Ms Michigan
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:14:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:Gilbaron wrote:assuming Weaseliors numbers are correct you can get 14.4% more minerals from your ore in nullsec than in highsec. that does not really sound like a nerf to me. No, it's an outright and desperate attempt of CCP to force more people into 00 sec - like cattle to the butcher. grow some balls and teeth. when we had the chance to choose between hotdropping carebears in providence and russian carebear renters we chose providence. mainly because the russian renters were fighting back.
Come to Providence $@$@ - I guarantee you we will fight back.
Bring your cap ships too - we would love to help you get rid of yours. |
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